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An interview with Jesse Peretz, director of First Love, Last
Rites
'To see, learn and understand the importance of everyday things'
By Richard Phillips
2 July 1998
Richard Phillips: How did you choose this story and
why have you set it in Louisiana?
Jesse Peretz: The story is from a collection of the
same name by Ian McEwan. When I came across it, which incidentally
I first read here in Sydney, I had been looking for a script idea
that would reflect on some of my own experiences. I wanted something
that dealt with these issues and McEwan's story had all the things
that I was interested in. It seemed perfect for expansion into
a full feature, so, before I had even finished reading it, I decided
to try and make it into a movie. Of course the process of doing
that took some time.
I relocated the story from England to America because I knew
that I would make mistakes in my first feature film, so the last
thing that I wanted was to make any major cultural blunders. Obviously
you can make cultural blunders with any film, no matter where
you set it but I wanted to minimise that.
Why Louisiana? Well, it had the right natural resources for
the story -- a fishing industry and some operating factories --
and this state has always fascinated me. It is so different from
the rest of the South. There are so many mixtures -- Cajuns, Creoles,
Spanish and French. Culturally and visually it is lush, dark and
mysterious. When you drive through it is literally screaming to
be photographed.
RP: Can you describe social conditions in the town where
the film was shot?
JP: There are sugar factories and a little bit of fishing,
but oil is the major industry. The town is a socially depressed
area -- the conditions fluctuating in line with world oil prices.
In 1973 things were booming and everyone was employed, then there
was a downturn and there were some really depressed areas that
you get some sense of in the film.
RP: The film appealed to me because it is about ordinary
people -- a contrast to the subject matter of most mainstream
films coming out of the US today.
JP: My pet peeve with American film-making is the conception
that people will only spend time in a movie theatre if you show
them something completely out of the ordinary. You can take Good
Will Hunting, which I find quite offensive, or Titanic
as examples.
The attitude in Titanic is that you cannot make a movie
about two people falling in love. The heroine can't just be an
ordinary person, she has to be super-rich with a million dollar
pendant and her lover has to be super-poor.
What irritates me are those films motivated by the bag of money
or someone being murdered. Unfortunately, these two things account
for the major plot thrust of 95 percent of the movies made in
America today.
As far as I am concerned the stories of everyday life are worth
people reflecting on. I want people to see, learn and understand
the importance of everyday things through film.
RP: While the film has a simple plot there are some
underlying tensions and unanswered questions. Can you explain
this?
JP: My aim is not to make a completely bland film about
everyday life, it has to have something special or unusual about
it. There has to be something unique or different about the characters.
Everybody has darkness, passion, sensuality, sexuality and
even boredom. These normal human states are potentially a gold
mine for artists to explore and that is my goal in this film,
to explore these emotional and psychological questions.
At one point Joey says to Sissel that he feels that when they
make love they create something, not a child, but some strange
presence. This is only one of the fantasies or the confusions
that start to destroy their relationship and is one of the interesting
components of the film.
My next film, which is about a 19 year-old French girl who
is obsessed with the culture of 1960s France, will be a step towards
a slightly bigger story, but there is no bag of cash or the threat
of anyone being murdered.
RP: Could you explain how the soundtrack was produced
and transition you made from a musician to director?
JP: There really wasn't a transition because I've been
making films since I was fifteen. Being in the band was just a
glorified hobby. I went to college and studied film and photography
while I was in the band but the moment the band was going to become
a full-time job I got out. My aim was to make movies. I tell my
friends that you can only rock until you are 30 but you can produce
art until the day you die.
With the soundtrack, there are two friends of mine who are
in a band and we set out to do original songs for every major
scene in the film. By the time we began shooting the film I had
their demo tracks of everything.
It was only after we finished shooting it that we went to some
of the bigger names in music and had them record the music. It
was also important to have a diverse range of singers to make
it feel that it is music from all over the place. The Jeff Buckley
song in the film is the last song he recorded before he died.
RP: What directors have influenced you the most?
JP: The two movies that made me obsessed with becoming
a director were Win Wenders' The American Friend and Truffaut's
Jules and Jim. So my big favourites are early Wenders,
Truffaut and Godard. Todd Haynes is also a special filmmaker for
me and I have been influenced by Mike Leigh: the acting is so
real and convincing in his films. I also like Ken Loach very much
and the films produced by Jane Campion.
RP: What would you say about state of the film industry
and the problems that face young film directors in the US?
JP: It is hard to raise money to make a film, especially
for young directors, but I find it difficult to argue that society
should give me half a million dollars so that I can express myself
artistically. I feel this more so when living in a world, or a
city like New York, where people are starving in the streets or
cannot get proper medical care or a roof over their heads.
Many people will complain about funding but it is a huge privilege
for me, as a 32 year-old, to be able to make movies, or be flown
to foreign countries for film festivals and the like. I can't
say that I deserve this more than anybody else, so I embrace whatever
obstacles that are necessary to produce my movies.
This doesn't mean that I am onto a commercial streak or that
I support the government cutting money to the National Endowment
for the Arts. I certainly don't agree with the screwed up expenditure
priorities pursued by the government -- the massive money spent
on military and so on.
I recognise that my artistic aims are not completely marketable
in the American system and therefore it is more of an uphill battle
but you will never hear me complain that James Cameron got $200
million to make Titanic. That's his problem. Ultimately
he is stuck in a world that limits him entirely to the market
economy. In the end, he is much more restricted than I am.
See Also:
First Love, Last Rites, directed
by Jesse Peretz, from a short story by Ian McEwan
A refreshing change from Hollywood's image of youth
[2 July 1998]
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