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Singapore Film Festival
An interview with Viet Linh, director of Collective Flat
By Richard Phillips
21 April 2000
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Like many Vietnamese
directors Viet Linh started her film training at the Giai Phong
Film Studio. She worked as an editor and then, after graduating
from a cinematography course at the studio, began writing documentary
film scripts. She later travelled to Russia for more advanced
cinema studies.
Collective Flat , which was released in 1999, is her sixth
feature. Viet Linh's filmography includes: The birds were
singing in the quiet place (1986), The trial needs a presiding
judge (1987), The travelling circus (1989) and The
devil's mark (1992).
Richard Phillips: Could you explain where the idea for
your film came from?
Viet Linh: Collective Flat is drawn from Vietnamese
society and, in particular, from a short story by Nguyen Ho. It
also comes out of my personal experience. This is how I lived
after the war. When I was younger I joined the resistance and
fought against the Americans. After victory I returned to the
city in a truck, just like the one in the film, and I also lived
in a similar building.
RP: Your film deals with changes in Vietnam beginning
in 1975 and begins with Tham's concerns at this time. Could you
give some more details about this period?
VL: Of course my experiences were not the same as Tham.
I was a member of the resistance and my life was somewhat different.
I came back into the city from the jungle and just like some of
the film's characters I met many people like Tham. It is possible
to say that my film is a reflection of real life from this time.
RP: Did you arrive in Saigon on May 1, 1975?
VL: I arrived in the city on April 30. I came straight
from the bush, and when I say bush I mean the whole way of life
we had at this time.
RP: Tham doesn't support the old regime but nonetheless
he still has difficulties adjusting. Could you explain some of
the issues you have tried to explore in your film?
VL: Mr Tham is a symbolic figure. There is no real Mr
Tham but he is someone that I have used to look at the whole of
Vietnamese society. This is also the case with the hotel. The
point is that it is not only Tham who has problems adjusting to
the situation but many of the new residents. People in the city
had difficulties and so did the resistance fightersmany
had trouble adapting.
RP: Your film concludes with Tham unable to make another
changethe demolition of the hotel and the dispersal of its
residents. Could you comment on this and how it relates changes
underway in Vietnam today?
VL: Actually I'm not someone who opposes the market
economy, in fact I think it should provide an opportunity to develop
the country and overcome some of its problems. Or at least I hope
so. I also think it is important to understand what this market
economy is and what it should do. We have to be clear about that.
Obviously it is going to create some difficulties but perhaps
this can be likened in some way to my film, which I describe as
a bittersweet story.
The other thing to look at in this context is the behaviour
of those who participated in the resistance. Their education was
that money and the market was wrong. Now we have this market,
which has arrived in Vietnam, and all the money that goes with
it, so for them it is difficult to know what to do. It is a very
interesting situation but in my view life has its own rules, its
own direction, and people will adjust to this.
RP: Are there any concerns in Vietnam about the rapprochement
with the United States?
VL: I don't think there is any resentment about this.
The Vietnamese are a people who prefer to forget about these things.
They don't dwell on the past and some of the terrible things that
took place because it doesn't help or change anything. To be more
precise, it is not that they have forgotten the past but would
rather think about the future.
RP: Unfortunately I have not seen many Vietnamese films.
The Wild Field reminds me of early Soviet social realist
films and your film reminds me of To Live, Zhang Yimou's
film. Are there any particular film styles or directors that you
favour and is Collective Flat a new approach for you?
VL: I don't really like to talk about style. It's something
I don't really think about. I have made six films and all of them
are different. In fact the style, if that is the right word, comes
from the feel or texture of the script and the very process of
making the film. I'm not sure which directors have influenced
me but Fellini is one person whose work I admire very much. His
work has inspired me. Of course I am nowhere near his skill or
insight but he is one of my favourite directors.
To go back to your previous question though I don't think about
the style of any particular film but develop each film from what
I feel for the material.
RP: It's been seven years since your last film. Why
has there been such a long break?
VL: The first reason is that I had to find a script
that I liked. The second reason is that the government didn't
approve the scripts that I did like, so maybe it'll be another
seven years before I find another script that will be approved.
Film funds are from the government and so they only spend money
on films they like. This is the normal process in Vietnam. Of
course, [laughter] if you have any money then maybe you might
like to see some of the scripts that I like.
RP: What was the budget for Collective Flat and
have you been able to get international distribution?
VL: The budget was ridiculous. It wasn't even $200,000.
You probably know Three Seasons [a US-funded film produced
in Vietnam last year]. It had a budget of $3 million, and you
must remember Three Seasons was considered a very small
film. Collective Flat didn't have anywhere near that amount.
This is a continuous problem for Vietnamese filmmakers. I've had
a script for about ten years that I've wanted to make but I need
$600,000 to do it. This sum is almost impossible to find in Vietnam.
Making films in Vietnam is very hard because some of the equipment
is so old it should be in the museum. The cameras are reasonable
but the support equipment is poor and directors don't even have
monitors to check what they have shot. For Collective Flat
we had only one room and had to keep moving the pictures and
furnishings around to try and make it look different.
Of course cinema is a unique art form, it's not like painting,
it involves money, equipment and skilled people and this requires
money. The funds provided by the state are limited and so although
there are directors with talent they don't get enough work to
improve their skills.
We always joke in Vietnam that making a film is like fighting
a war. We have to be very clever. It's a real struggle to overcome
all the difficulties. At the same time, working together in these
conditions generates a real sense of warmth between those involved.
People working in the film industrythe directors, the
writers, editors and actorsdo it for love. There is no possibility
of making money or a full-time career. Everyone has to have other
jobs or other means of support. Our budget was so low that that
Ngyuen Minh Trang had to pay for her own flight to Vietnam.
To answer your other question, Collective Flat has been
bought by the Japanese television corporation, NHK, and has also
been shown in two cinemas in Paris and in some cinemas in Vietnam.
It has been well received by the intellectuals and critics in
Vietnam and particularly appreciated by those who lived through
these times. There is no strong film culture in Vietnam and there
are only a few cinemas. Unfortunately most people watch kungfu
movies, or videos, rather than the sort of movies that I make.
See Also:
Singapore International Film Festival
Two films from Vietnam: The Wild Field and Collective
Flat
[20 April 2000]
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